I’m excited to share my recent conversation with Mark Farrell on the Insight podcast, where we explored the inner journey of letting go and learning to flow with life—no matter what wave comes your way. In this interview, we touch on several themes from The Way of the Wave, including control, parenting, surrender, and the tidal wave of our times: The Great Divide. At its heart, the conversation is about embracing the Wave in everyday life—tuning in to life’s natural rhythm to discover not just clarity and calm, but also surprising joy, connection, and freedom.
Key Themes and Moments:
- Getting Out of Your Own Way: Mark and I talk about how control can show up in subtle ways, and how taking an honest inventory of your “control habits” is the first step toward freedom.
- Benefits of Wave Enhancers: We look at how wave enhancers—like acceptance, humility, and self-care—can help realign us with life’s natural rhythm.
- The Guidance Over Control Shift: In parenting and beyond, I’ve learned that guiding others is much more powerful than trying to control them. When we meet others where they are instead of trying to shape them to our image, connection deepens.
- Riding the Wave of Division: We also discuss The Great Divide, the growing sense of separation in our world, and how small practices—like listening without judgment and seeing the humanity in others—can soften even the most polarizing interactions.
- From Rock Bottom to Surrender: At one point in the conversation, I open up about a personal low: multiple failed nose surgeries that eventually led me to a deeper kind of surrender. I no longer had the energy to fight life. And that surrender? It changed everything.
I invite you to listen to the full interview below, where we explore how embracing the Wave—rather than resisting it—can help us move through uncertainty with greater grace, wisdom, and ease. Whether you’re navigating burnout, parenting, or just trying to slow down and live more intentionally, I hope this conversation offers something meaningful for you.
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